Jen and Darren return to talk about pros an cons of returning to school and how it could be done safely – or not – and how training tools for teachers is lacking. And as is typical the conversation drifts to a score of other things: mother-in-laws, getting surgery during COVID, campgrounds during a pandemic, vaccine guinea pigs, vaccine conspiracies, Bill Gates and a Nazi couple from Minnesota banned from Walmart. What more could you ask for?